Continued from Issues stemming from Jena 6 Part 3...
mike vass: No, he is going to be released.
MH: No he is not being released. Check CNN.
mike vass: I stand corrected, what is happening then?
MH: I am still reading. That sucks, even after the protest they still didn’t get "justice".
mike vass: Not really. But protest has been ongoing for months. At least now there is a chance, Congress is supposed to get involved.
MH: Which makes my point. I think that is just a spin.
mike vass: It is, but it may get justice served along the way. They may be self-serving, but he may get help by accident.
MH: So in order for us to get justice, we need to call Al and the gang and have a march?
mike vass: We need to pursue it, and realize it won't happen immediately. If we stop it's like stopping swimming, you drown. May still die while swimming, but at least you have a chance.
MH: We need to get the hell out of the pool then. This is crazy.
mike vass: You can only get out of the pool if you win, and we aren't winning.
MH: We only make up 12 percent of this country, we will never win.
mike vass: Actually, we are at 15% and Hispanics are 15%. We are roughly 1-3 for people of color, which means things have to start to change.
MH: Oh excuse me. So even if we and the Hispanics teamed up (don’t hold your breath) and really rallied, we would still be basically doing nothing. We don’t even like our own people.
mike vass: But how depends on what we do, and not being divided, or distracted (like by trying to be the next sports star, or the whole rap/hip-hop thing).
MH: Black Americans don’t like Jamaicans, Puerto Ricans don’t like Dominicans. But we get bent out of shape when whites don’t want us around.
mike vass: No real reason for it. But it makes things easy for others to maintain control.
MH: Jamaicans are idiots because they say "Black Americans allowed themselves to be mistreated during slavery so they are now lazy." Which is asinine. Black Americans think "West Indian men beat their women and cheat on them all the time and they are arrogant."
mike vass: That’s so stupid.
MH: Yes it is. Which is why I can see why Whites don’t like us.
mike vass: Where does all this come from?
MH: We spend too much time doing stupid things. It comes from the fact that the English were much more humane to their slaves (Black Caribbean’s) than American slave owners were. They were not beaten nor treated as harshly as American slaves were. So there was some level of pride left in Jamaican slaves, when they were freed, they were in a better position and they look down on American slaves.
mike vass: Ah, that makes a big difference.
MH: It does, but it’s stupid because we were all slaves. Hating one another doesn’t make sense.
mike vass: Exactly, still suffering the effects of all that.
MH: No he is not being released. Check CNN.
mike vass: I stand corrected, what is happening then?
MH: I am still reading. That sucks, even after the protest they still didn’t get "justice".
mike vass: Not really. But protest has been ongoing for months. At least now there is a chance, Congress is supposed to get involved.
MH: Which makes my point. I think that is just a spin.
mike vass: It is, but it may get justice served along the way. They may be self-serving, but he may get help by accident.
MH: So in order for us to get justice, we need to call Al and the gang and have a march?
mike vass: We need to pursue it, and realize it won't happen immediately. If we stop it's like stopping swimming, you drown. May still die while swimming, but at least you have a chance.
MH: We need to get the hell out of the pool then. This is crazy.
mike vass: You can only get out of the pool if you win, and we aren't winning.
MH: We only make up 12 percent of this country, we will never win.
mike vass: Actually, we are at 15% and Hispanics are 15%. We are roughly 1-3 for people of color, which means things have to start to change.
MH: Oh excuse me. So even if we and the Hispanics teamed up (don’t hold your breath) and really rallied, we would still be basically doing nothing. We don’t even like our own people.
mike vass: But how depends on what we do, and not being divided, or distracted (like by trying to be the next sports star, or the whole rap/hip-hop thing).
MH: Black Americans don’t like Jamaicans, Puerto Ricans don’t like Dominicans. But we get bent out of shape when whites don’t want us around.
mike vass: No real reason for it. But it makes things easy for others to maintain control.
MH: Jamaicans are idiots because they say "Black Americans allowed themselves to be mistreated during slavery so they are now lazy." Which is asinine. Black Americans think "West Indian men beat their women and cheat on them all the time and they are arrogant."
mike vass: That’s so stupid.
MH: Yes it is. Which is why I can see why Whites don’t like us.
mike vass: Where does all this come from?
MH: We spend too much time doing stupid things. It comes from the fact that the English were much more humane to their slaves (Black Caribbean’s) than American slave owners were. They were not beaten nor treated as harshly as American slaves were. So there was some level of pride left in Jamaican slaves, when they were freed, they were in a better position and they look down on American slaves.
mike vass: Ah, that makes a big difference.
MH: It does, but it’s stupid because we were all slaves. Hating one another doesn’t make sense.
mike vass: Exactly, still suffering the effects of all that.
I hope this conversation was of use and interest. I want to thank Michael H. for allowing me to present this to everyone. And thank you to everyone that read it all.
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